این مطلب اولین بار در تاریخ ۱۸ مارچ به اشتراک گذاشته شد و بعد حذف گردید آیا من اشتباه میکنم و یا اینکه این مطلب واقعن از این صفحه حذف شده است؟ «شورای مدیریت» لطفن من را یاری دهید. آنقدر بی اعتمادی بوجود آمده که به همه چیز باید با شک و تردید نگاه کرد. چندین بار بالا پایین کردم ولی این مطلب را نیافتم. چندین بار آنرا خواندم. موردی نیافتم که مخالف ضوابط این صفحه باشد. اگر کسی از این گمشده سراغی داشت من را با خبر کند تا پوزش بطلبم. با تشکر اگر اشتباه نکنم، این مطلب را در ۱۸ مارچ به اشتراک گذاشتم ولی دیگر نمییابمش. البته انگاری امکان پنهان ساختن مطالب از صفحه بدون حذف آنها نیز وجود دارد. ــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــ زمانی که به ریشه مشکلات پی برده باشیم و راه حل آنرا هم خوب بدانیم، هر مشکل دیگر، جانبی میگردند و برخورد با آنها میبایست با در نظر داشتن مشکل اصلی و راه حل آن باشد. دستیابی به لیست اعضاء حدود دویست هزار دلار برای کامیونیتی هزینه داشته است. اجازه دادن به اینکه از طریق دور زدن قانون بتوان به گونه ای دیگر به این حق مسلم اعضاء تعرض گردد خطای فاحشی به حساب خواهد آمد. متن گفتگو ها در باره افزایش بهای دریافت (با در نظر داشتن قانون از استفاده از کلمه هزینه خودداری کرده ام ) را عینن بازنویس میکنم و در کامنت ها به گفتگو در باره آن خواهم پرداخت. از آنجاییکه به نظر میاید امسال نیز میبایست به مراجع قانونی متوسل گردیم، به نظر میاید این مناسب ترین موضوع میباشد.
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Moslem Noori moved to the next topic of fees for
accessing the organization’s members list. He started by
mentioning that the law requires the fee list access fee
to be a reasonable amount. The $40 cost was decided when
the members of the ICC were very low. The number of
ICC’s members has grown substantially over the past
couple of years and consequently the cost of bookkeeping
has increased as well. Moslem Noori suggested that the
fee for acquiring the list should be increased and the
board should discuss the new amount.
● Ahmad Ehsandar Mentioned that the cost of bookkeeping
the members information is currently around $500 CAD per
month and it is the highest cost compared to other
services ICC is paying for. We should take into account
that this $40 is set when ICC had only a few hundred
members and its operational cost was a lot less. Ahmad
mentioned that assuming we will have around 20 people
applying for the list annually (same as last year) and
the fact that we are paying around $5000 annually the
$250 is a reasonable amount for acquiring the list.
● Mohsen Khaniki stated that the publicity of the ICC
has grown in the last couple of years and as such its
cost has increased and it is fair to increase the fee
for accessing the list. Also, the amount of this fee
should be as such to discourage spamming attempts by
those who want to abuse this right. He mentioned that
with around 3500 members the list access fee should be
$500 CAD.
● Kayhan Razavi mentioned that other non profit
organizations also consider such fees simply because all
require money to provide service to their community. He
mentioned 500 CAD might be too high and no one will be
able to pay that much. But 250 CAD that Ahmad suggested
is reasonable. 7
● Moslem emphasized that we cannot put any monetary
value on the private information of our members and we
are only asking for a fee just to cover the cost of its
bookkeeping. We also don’t want to increase it too high
to raise any suspicion that the new board doesn't want
to provide the list to our members. Moslem suggested a
fee between 150 to 200 CAD.
● Mehrnoosh Ahmadi said that just the price will not
discourage those who are determined to get the list. The
cost should not be that high that only wealthy people
can afford it. She also explained that emails [Regarding
Mehrnoush's meeting as board member with other ICC
members to discuss ICC related issues.] sent to members
were not sent from her but if we have ICC forums
available for members, there would be no need for such
emails in the future.
● Saman TabasiNejad stated that the $250 may be a
reasonable price specially with many emails she received
complaining about random emails distributed recently.
However, we don’t want to make it hard for those who
want to campaign during the election period, we can come
up with a plan to reduce the cost close to election.
● The board unanimously agreed that this fee can be
changed in future when we get more feedback from our
community.
⮚ A motion was moved by Ahmad Ehsandar to increase the
fee of acquiring the list to $250. The motion was
seconded by Kayhan razavi.
o The motion was adopted by six votes in favor, one
abstention (Moslem Noori) and one vote against (Mehrnoosh
Ahmadi).
o Mehrnoosh Ahmadi mentioned that she needs to discuss
it with her supporters. But she thinks that this number
is too high.
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